[hannah]

I hate to point you over to DB but Kindroxx sued telemarketers and his stuff is on the DB site. Worth a look. I will email him and see if he'd like to join here and impart his wisdom...As a matter of fact, I have all his stuff as well and if Qtip would like, IC can put it up after I get Kindroxx's permission as I will ask when I email him. Have mid-terms this week so it will be at least a week before I will have time to dig it all out of archives...