yet another organization decides SSN should be published...

centex · 11-06-2006, 08:05 PM

In this day and age, one would think common sense would prevail in any membership-based organization that occasionally sends out mailings to its members and former members.

The braintrust in charge with the United States Bowling Congress apparently holds a different view than those of us with common sense though...

In today's mailbox is an entry for a tournament to be held next year...fine, I was expecting it. Hell, I might even make the drive to bowl it since it is a helluva lot shorter drive than Reno would have been. The idiots put the social security number right above the name on the address on the envelope.

And to think that they cannot figure out why people have so little confidence in the ability of the USBC to get a damned thing correct...

jlynn · 11-06-2006, 08:07 PM

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And to think that they cannot figure out why people have so little confidence in the ability of the USBC to get a damned thing correct...

Was your SS# correct?

centex · 11-06-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jlynn

Was your SS# correct?

If it were not such a pain in the ass to fix, I would wish $50K in losses upon you for your pointing out the one thing that those cheese-effers could apparently get correct.

Pale Rider · 11-06-2006, 08:57 PM

Why do they need the SS# in the first place?

Are there some problems with imposters in the bowling world?

centex · 11-06-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pale Rider

Why do they need the SS# in the first place?

They have to report winnings over $600 to the IRS. However, the SSN database should never have been even remotely close to the database used for mass mailings to the membership.

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Are there some problems with imposters in the bowling world?

sadly, yes there are...some have gotten their sanction cards yanked and then go create an ID to bowl in another Association.

What makes this matter even more egregious is that if the same data as was on the envelope were in a database that was breached by an unauthorized party, the USBC would be REQUIRED to report the breach due to the laws in some states where they have membership. However, there appears to be no such law requiring that notice where they are simply stupid and irresponsible...

Pale Rider · 11-06-2006, 09:30 PM

You would think it would fall under GLBA. If you could show they pass the info on to a 3rd party, they would be a CRA by definition, and you could have all sorts of fun with them.

California has a specific law that prohibits this, but I couldn't find anything in Wisconsin statutes, and haven't looked in TX yet.

Pale Rider · 11-06-2006, 09:36 PM

§ 48.102. BUSINESS DUTY TO PROTECT AND SAFEGUARD
SENSITIVE PERSONAL INFORMATION. (a) A business shall implement
and maintain reasonable procedures, including taking any
appropriate corrective action, to protect and safeguard from
unlawful use or disclosure any sensitive personal information
collected or maintained by the business in the regular course of
business.

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/...O_DOC_TEXT=YES

jlynn · 11-06-2006, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by centex

If it were not such a pain in the ass to fix, I would wish $50K in losses upon you for your pointing out the one thing that those cheese-effers could apparently get correct.

Gib · 11-06-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by centex

They have to report winnings over $600 to the IRS. However, the SSN database should never have been even remotely close to the database used for mass mailings to the membership.

sadly, yes there are...some have gotten their sanction cards yanked and then go create an ID to bowl in another Association.

What makes this matter even more egregious is that if the same data as was on the envelope were in a database that was breached by an unauthorized party, the USBC would be REQUIRED to report the breach due to the laws in some states where they have membership. However, there appears to be no such law requiring that notice where they are simply stupid and irresponsible...

What a bunch of bullshit. Last time I filled out an ABC card, I left it blank. They have no need for that information. They can collect the SS# when and if you win a local tourny, or cash over the $600 at nationals. That's what, .01 % of their membership?

centex · 11-07-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Gib

What a bunch of bullshit. Last time I filled out an ABC card, I left it blank. They have no need for that information. They can collect the SS# when and if you win a local tourny, or cash over the $600 at nationals. That's what, .01 % of their membership?

unfortunately, I have fallen in that small percentage, so they had a legitimate need to have had the SSN. They probably also had it from records they acquired when the Tour folded...

I have gotten two very piss-poor apologies this morning...have yet to see anything on their website though.