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Advanced Credit Repair - Dealing with Collection Agencies Discuss Dunning Letter For Unknown Alleged Debt in the CREDIT AND LEGAL ISSUES forums; A notorious Utah collection law firm pulled my CR on 12/22/06. They have called three times using an auto-dialer with really funny ha-ha messages like if I am not me, ...
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:35 PM   #1
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Dunning Letter For Unknown Alleged Debt

A notorious Utah collection law firm pulled my CR on 12/22/06. They have called three times using an auto-dialer with really funny ha-ha messages like if I am not me, to stop listening to the message.

Oh and they insert my name with over 35 seconds of dead air between my computer-generated first and last name. The messages are really hilarious to listen to.

In today’s mail, postmarked on 12/28/06, I received a dunning letter from them. In no less than 6 places in the letter, they tell me to send payment or call them and if I do neither one, their “client may be entitled to file a lawsuit against me or take further action for the collection of the debt.”

The letter claims that the OC is A$$et.

The letter has all the mandatory warnings including text about the new part that went into effect in December and says “The law does not require our client to wait until the end of the thirty-day period before pursuing their contractual rights against you to collect this debt. If, however, you request proof of the debt or the name and address of the original creditor within the thirty-day period that begins with your receipt of this letter, the law requires our firm to suspend our efforts to collect the debt (through litigation or otherwise) until we mail the requested information to you."

In all, the letter implies 6 times that they will file suit unless I pay up.

It also says and I quote, “At this time, no attorney with this firm has personally reviewed the particular circumstances of your account. However, if you fail to contact this office, our client may consider additional remedies to recover the Total Amount Due.” End quote.

After reading and re-reading everything I have archived about collection attorneys and what they need to do to stay compliant with the FDCPA including all the caselaw on attorneys and meaningful review, what do you guys think about that last part??

Apex….anything in WV Code on this? If so, I can’t find it…

DV letter is all ready to go into the mail tomorrow. I am fully prepared to deal with a law firm who claims A$$et is an OC...
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the case law that I am familiar with deals with a CA using attorney letterhead, but this should be some extra added fun to bring in your new year girly.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:50 PM   #3
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the case law that I am familiar with deals with a CA using attorney letterhead, but this should be some extra added fun to bring in your new year girly.
EXACTLY!! If an attorney from this law firm hasn't even looked over the file to see if the alleged debt is legitimate, isn't A$$et just renting an attorney letterhead to dun me into submission?! Oh, I'm scared...
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Damn I want letters like that!!! You are so right Hannah I have read over case law on this mainly out of the sixth. On my website inthe CL forum there shoule be 1-3 cases on this in there you just need to search
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Damn I want letters like that!!! You are so right Hannah I have read over case law on this mainly out of the sixth. On my website inthe CL forum there shoule be 1-3 cases on this in there you just need to search
I will read them...

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It is ripe with violations. UPL comes to mind. Saying that their client has the right to sue when a lawyer has not made that determination. Even if a lawyer did sign off on the suit, was it a lawyer admitted the the WV Bar?

Dear CA,

Thank you for your recent communication concerning xxxx.

Please allow this correspondence to place you on notice the I am disputing your allegation that xxxxxxxxxx.

Further, your correspondence is wreaking with violations of the FDCPA and <WV version>. Please forward your check in the amount of $xxxx.00 to settle this matter without the need for litigation.

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Interesting that you should say that as they settled with the WV AG's office in 2004 for violations of UPL and being debt collectors without being licensed and bonded in the state. I checked with SOS office and they are licensed and bonded as a collection agency but need to check with the state bar to see if any of their attorneys are licensed here. They could always farm it out to a licensed attorney here but if not licensed here, they cannot dun me or call me for collection from Utah according to the way I read the law.
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Why is my phone number required for a CLI???

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I have no idea but would be more than happy to pass along your phone number to the law firm we are discussing in this thread...just PM it to me...
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I swallowed a fly and am delirious....I was trying to start a new thread.
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DV/ITS went out this morning!

I contacted the state bar and no attorney in the membership directory lists working for this law firm so I take it that none are members of the WV State Bar. I could be wrong but I doubt it.
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Go get em hannah...but if this is the CA err law firm I am thinking of they will not settle to easily in my experience....
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Go get em hannah...but if this is the CA err law firm I am thinking of they will not settle to easily in my experience....
Jay, they are listing A$$et as the OC. The alleged debt that I believe they are after has been OOS for at least 6 months. They threatened an action they cannot take, they are renting a letterhead, they missed the 5 days to notify, etc., etc. In addition, I checked my CR's this morning and A$$et is back after I got rid of them 2 years ago when they could not validate. My FAKO's dropped by 52 points on average with the new derogatory tradelines on all 3 CRA's. It is re-aged to reflect September 06 as the DOFD. So now I have yet more to get them on. The former tradeline A$$et had on my CR's wasn't mine. The amounts and account numbers showing are the same as before and the same as the law firm letter has so it has to be the same old account that wasn't mine to begin with. I would rather settle this easily and quickly but if they want to play, game on!
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I would rather settle this easily and quickly but if they want to play, game on!
It's pretty obvious that their New Year's resolution was to pay off all your debt.
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