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Old 01-05-2007, 04:56 PM   #1
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Timeframe for Debt Validation

I am new to this community and feel as if there is a tremendous amount of knowledge here.

I hope that you can answer some of my questions. Based on the Wiki article below, it sounds to me if you don't respond within 30 days from initial contact by the collector, that you can disput the debt but not DV the debt.

I would appreciate any clarification or comment.

Forgive this long post. I got this form Wikipedia:

Debt validation
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Debt Validation, or "debt verification", refers to a consumer's right to challenge a debt and/or receive written verification of a debt from a debt collector. The right to dispute the debt and receive validation are part of the consumer's rights under the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) and are set out in §809 [15 U.S.C. § 1692g] of that act.

[edit] Who is considered a debt collector?
Under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, any person or entity, including lawyers, who regularly attempts to collect consumer debts is considered a debt collector.[1] The original creditor and its employees are generally not subject to the FDCPA, though they may be regulated by other state and federal laws; including the Fair and Accurate Credit Transactions Act and the Fair Credit Reporting Act.



[edit] When can a consumer dispute a debt or request validation?
A consumer can dispute a debt at any time, but only a written request sent within thirty days of the first written notice of the debt triggers validation rights under the FDCPA. The Act spells out specific language which must be included in the first written notice to the consumer, most notably that the consumer has 30 days to dispute the debt and request validation. However, failure by the consumer to dispute the debt during this thirty day period does not constitute a legal admission of the debt.


[edit] What constitutes debt validation?
The FDCPA does not define what constitutes proper debt validation, and different courts have reached different conclusions as to what is required from a debt collector. In the case of Chaudhry v. Gallerizzo, 174 F.3d 394 (4th Cir. 1999), the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals adopts a relatively low standard: "Verification of a debt involves nothing more than the debt collector confirming in writing that the amount being demanded is what the creditor is claiming is owed; the debt collector is not required to keep detailed files of the alleged debt." The Court further stated that a request for validation of the debt is primarily intended to eliminate such problems as collectors contacting the wrong person or attempting to collect debts which have already been paid.[2]. In 2006, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals adopted the "reasonable standard" articulated in Chaudhry.[3]

In contrast, consumer advocates have criticized the Chaudhry case as allowing debt collectors to justify providing little information in response to a dispute.

Thus, what exactly constitutes proper validation of a debt depends on the specific nature of the dispute. At a minimum, the debt collector is required to confirm with the creditor the amount being claimed is correct and that the person from whom they are attempting to collect the debt is the person who owes it.


[edit] What if the debt collector does not respond?
There is no deadline for the debt collector to provide a response to the request for validation. However, a debt collector must cease all attempts to collect the debt until they have sent a sufficient response.

If a consumer makes a timely request for debt validation and a debt collector fails to provide proper validation or does not respond at all, the debt collector may not legally continue to pursue the debt. If collection activity continues, the consumer may file a law suit in state or federal court for violation of the FDCPA (see Fair Debt Collection Practices Act for discussion of FDCPA law suits).

Any dispute of the debt must also be reported by the creditor on the consumer's credit report pursuant to the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA).[/i][/i][/i]
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When you are initially contacted by a creditor, you have 30 days per the FDCPA to contact them in writing and ask for validation or rather proof you owe the debt. Some circuits still say that validation is merely the name of the OC and the amount but others say differently and it will depend on where you live to say what constitutes validation. You can still dispute a debt after the initial 30 days but the creditor is not under any federal obligation to send it to you...however, there are many states with teeth in their own consumer law that makes it a violation of state law if a creditor does not send you written proof of a debt owing no matter when you ask for it. In addition, you can also dispute a debt tradeline directly to the CRA's under the FCRA and they are "supposed" to investigate whether or not it's legit but we all know that seldom does that happen. Finally you also have FACTA where you can dispute a debt tradeline on your credit report directly to the data furnisher.

What are you wanting to dispute?
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It is also important to remember that some states offer a broader level of protection than the federal statute. Do not get hung up on looking only to federal rules for relief...

Also, I would recommend that you not rely upon Wikipedia for your information on anything, especially something as significant as debt.
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Thanks to All for the Responses

Thanks to all who responded to this post. It was most helpful.

BTW, Wiki only came up as a hit to a Google Search. I hardly ever use them.
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