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Old 03-03-2007, 04:42 PM   #26
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You also have the other factors of no knowledge of the debt, fear and intimidation from collector, FDCPA violations, etc.

Was this the initial communication?
Was she ever given notice of right to dispute?
Did they provide anyhting other than threats that prove the debt was hers?
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Old 03-03-2007, 04:45 PM   #27
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Onus remains on the claimant that the SoL has been restarted.

He has the thresholds of both intent and written acceptance to meet in order to prevail.

While these are not impossible to meet, they are not necessarily assumed, on the basis of the simple claim, to rise to the level of acceptability, particularly if the alleged debtor challenges the assertion.
You are correct. There are over 300 old cases that say the same.

Vindian - What did she write on the money order?

One more thought, if she doesn't remember this alleged debt and they have no proof it's her debt, I believe I would file a suit for all violations and the money paid to be returned. This could be a criminal fraud case and if I were her, I would contact the police and file a report as to what happened so as to start a paper trail. The violations committed are egregious. There's the third party contact, threats, misrepresentation, just to name a few. All FDCPA. Massachusetts laws may have been violated as well and if I were her, I'd pull my credit reports to see if they are reporting which if not her debt could constitute violations of both the FCRA and FDCPA.

I would also contact the Boston Globe.
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....One more thought, if she doesn't remember this alleged debt and they have no proof it's her debt, I believe I would file a suit for all violations and the money paid to be returned. This could be a criminal fraud case and if I were her, I would contact the police and file a report as to what happened so as to start a paper trail. The violations committed are egregious. There's the third party contact, threats, misrepresentation, just to name a few. ....
If this alleged debt is NOT real...a return of what has been tendered is an obvious objective.

The criminal fraud might be difficult to prove. Again, intent may be the stumbling block. But certainly worth consideration. She can file the complaint, but I wouldn't count on anything except pressure to be applied. Local DA's are not particularly interested in adding to their already heavy burden on a matter of marginal criminal potential.

MGL pretty much mirrors the UCC, and there could well be causes of action that would derive therefrom. Relief is a function of actual damages; punative damages are a multiple of the actual (up to 3x, at the discretion of the Court). 3x what she has already paid in addition to reimbursement may be in the cards.

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....I would also contact the Boston Globe.
MA has a new, more activist-oriented AG. A report to her office would come first on my list.

Another place to "complain" would be to Rep Barney Frank, particularly if she is from his district. Frank is now Chairman of the House Banking Committee and has oversight on these issues. He is on record on intending to be aggressive in addressing abuse issues.

The Globe's Spotlight Group would be a good "last" contact since "the friend" will have a litany of actions taken that will fill-out the story and will provide a "focus" for any light that the investigative reporters might want to shine on those whose responsibility it is to address these issues. "The friend" may not, however, want the notoriety.

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Very good points all, Fixin...I'm glad I didn't ban you.
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:38 AM   #30
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Sad thing about dealing with debt collectors is you start to think like them. A Money Gram could have been sent by anyone - even the debt collector to themselves.
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Very good points all, Fixin...
Thank you.. Sticking to good points is a sure way of avoiding distruption.... isn't it?

And, I fail to see where disruption helps anyone.
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Was this the initial communication?
Was she ever given notice of right to dispute?
Did they provide anyhting other than threats that prove the debt was hers?
The phoe call was the initial Communication.
Was never given the right to dispute. Although, I told her they have 5 days after initial contact to send her notice.
They just told her what card it was, but she doesn't remember having the card.

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Vindian - What did she write on the money order?

One more thought, if she doesn't remember this alleged debt and they have no proof it's her debt, I believe I would file a suit for all violations and the money paid to be returned. This could be a criminal fraud case and if I were her, I would contact the police and file a report as to what happened so as to start a paper trail. The violations committed are egregious. There's the third party contact, threats, misrepresentation, just to name a few. All FDCPA. Massachusetts laws may have been violated as well and if I were her, I'd pull my credit reports to see if they are reporting which if not her debt could constitute violations of both the FCRA and FDCPA.

I would also contact the Boston Globe.
She wrote thier assigned account number or "case" number.
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She needs to get a DV letter in the mail ASAP. Also say in the letter that it is inconvenient to call her or any other phone number and that contact by mail is acceptable.
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