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05-30-2008, 10:22 PM
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| Permissible purpose I just found a recent inquiry on my CR. This CA I never heard of before, pulled my credit report and they probably told the CRA their PP is a collection.
Is the PP nullified by the fact that the CA is not authorized to collect debts in the state where I live? |
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05-30-2008, 10:49 PM
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| I don't think it would be nullified, but you can always dispute saying that you've had no business dealings with the entity.
Edit....because I left the word 'No' out.
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05-30-2008, 11:07 PM
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| Who is the CA in question? My guess is that they CAN be found in the SOS database...
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05-30-2008, 11:17 PM
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| I already tried the debt collector search from SOS website and they were not there. SOS is down right now, but the CA is "Plaza Associates". |
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05-30-2008, 11:35 PM
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| As I recall, Plaza was a DBA for a company with an active bond.
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05-30-2008, 11:47 PM
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| They will run as soon as you dispute.
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05-31-2008, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by centex As I recall, Plaza was a DBA for a company with an active bond. | I think you are right. Was it "Aid Associates Inc."? |
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05-31-2008, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by cjtx I think you are right. Was it "Aid Associates Inc."? | I don't remember who it was, but it was something I recalled from the days when we got the database in spreadsheet form via email from Nina...i
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06-02-2008, 07:29 AM
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| Plaza is in the database...
Principal Name: Aid Associates Inc dba Plaza Associates
Address: 370 Seventh Avenue
New York, NY 10001-
File Number: 970316
Status: Active
Date Filed: 8/1/1997
Cancellation Date:
Phone: (212) 947-7233
Bonding Company: Travelers Casualty and Surety Company of America
Bond No: 775224103TX
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06-02-2008, 08:47 AM
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| The TX Debt Collector database is not the friendliest to search. I always start on a zip code only. If you don't find it the first time, you need to search 3 or 4 different ways before you decide they don't have a bond.
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06-02-2008, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jlynn The TX Debt Collector database is not the friendliest to search. I always start on a zip code only. If you don't find it the first time, you need to search 3 or 4 different ways before you decide they don't have a bond. | The problem that seems most frequent is that many search engines will accept the 'enter' key as being the same as clicking 'submit' or however the function is labeled. The SOS site does not. Just hitting the 'enter' key on the keyboard gets you a 'no results' type of response...
The other issue is improper use of the wildcards...in this case, the quickest way to find Plaza was %plaza% in the name line and then click submit...
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06-02-2008, 10:32 AM
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| What about the original question, now in a hypothetical form?
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06-02-2008, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by VexatiousLitigant What about the original question, now in a hypothetical form? | That is too much of a fact-dependent question to be able to give a one-size-fits-all answer. I can easily envision scenarios that lend themselves to bona-fide error defenses...
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06-02-2008, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by centex That is too much of a fact-dependent question to be able to give a one-size-fits-all answer. I can easily envision scenarios that lend themselves to bona-fide error defenses... | I can't see not being bonded by a State as an oops my bad error - unless he has just recently moved to TX and they didn't know that UNTIL they pulled a report.
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06-02-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jlynn I can't see not being bonded by a State as an oops my bad error - unless he has just recently moved to TX and they didn't know that UNTIL they pulled a report. |
And therein was one of the very scenarios I envision and is precisely why there cannot be a one size fits all answer...
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06-02-2008, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cjtx I just found a recent inquiry on my CR. This CA I never heard of before, pulled my credit report and they probably told the CRA their PP is a collection.
Is the PP nullified by the fact that the CA is not authorized to collect debts in the state where I live? | Did you send a PP letter to the CA?
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06-03-2008, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Enigma Did you send a PP letter to the CA? | Yes, but no response so far and it's been almost 30 days. |
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